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Old Nov 02, 2007, 02:44 AM // 02:44   #21
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The only build that benefits from echo SS is the UW necro, because there is no purpose except pure damage for the build.

Every other SS bar should not waste a skill slot on it, and bring other skills that do more. SS is on a 10s recharge, with a 40/40 set, you don't need to burn even more energy just to cast it faster. You should be putting useful things on the rest of your bar - the use of a SS necro is combined defense/offense from hex pressure.

And yeah, obviously you would take out desc/defile.
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Old Nov 02, 2007, 03:11 AM // 03:11   #22
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The faster you kill an enemy the easier on your defense.

Also, just about every high-level PvE SS necromancer build uses Arcane Echo. Even those that require many tools, such as the Deep steel-wall build. This is because Arcane Echo is a tool in itself to reapply numerous hexes for various reasons, and to recast other spells.

One excellent reason for the poor-man's SS build, which we are aiming at here, to bring Arcane Echo is for burning Auspicious on the echoed version.

And, I don't know how to put this clearly enough, a double HCT/HSR set is not a substitute for Arcane Echo.

To summarize, the change you suggested would create a slow, cumbersome build with little utility, and I felt neither of the posted suggestions were very good, which is what I was responding to.

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Old Nov 02, 2007, 08:14 AM // 08:14   #23
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Old Nov 02, 2007, 04:09 PM // 16:09   #24
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ouch, that's - 110 HP.
Run a 40/40 set in HM and you are dead before you blink.
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btw this looks like necro thread ... why is everyone so obsessed with SS here? (I was wondering about it already when the op asked about it...)
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